Episode Transcript

How to Start a Conversation
Episode 1: July 22, 2008

This is Lisa B. Marshall; welcome to The Public Speaker's Quick and Dirty Tips for Improving Your Communication Skills.

When I was young, I remember being embarrassed by my mother --particularly when we were standing in long grocery store lines. No, she wasn't making spit balls with her coupons or chewing tobacco, she was making conversation. (Horrors!) She was talking with strangers!

As an adult I know the world is full of interesting strangers—every day potential new friends are all around us--if we just knew how to break the ice and start conversations. So today's tips are the valuable lessons I learned from my mom and other great communicators about how to start an in-person conversation.

Every time I deliver a professional networking seminar I am surprised by the number of people that ask me, "Lisa, how do you start a conversation?" So I thought, what better way to start OUR conversation than with an episode that is about starting conversations. (Aren't I clever?)

So how exactly do you start a conversation? For in-person conversations I think it all boils down to three things. First, you need to cultivate a zen-like attitude towards conversation making. Second, you need to pay attention, and third, you need to be genuinely curious. That’s it. Really. Cultivate a zen-like attitude, pay attention, and be curious.

1. Cultivate a zen-like attitude toward conversation making

What do I mean by zen-like? You need to let go of self-conscious and judgmental thinking. Introverts--listen carefully--you don't need to be an extrovert! Really, it's more important that you are comfortable with yourself and genuinely interested in getting to know other people--like you were when you were a kid. I remember when I was eight, a new girl moved in three houses away. The day she arrived, I marched over there, knocked, and asked "Can the little girl come out and play?” She ended up being my first "best friend." (Hmmm, I wonder if my mom encouraged me to do that?)

For me, it helps to remember that most people are happy to engage in a conversation and appreciate when someone else takes the lead.

Besides being comfortable, it’s also important not to dismiss anyone or prejudge a person by their appearance. You never know what the future will bring. Chris Yeh, a VP at PBwiki, Inc. recently shared this story with me. He said, "At one event, I saw a slight, pimply-faced kid and struck up a conversation...his company was doing $100 million/year in revenues. And as it turned out, I made one of my most successful angel investments because I met the entrepreneur at my acne-afflicted friend's 25th birthday party."

An important lesson...don't dismiss anyone.

2. Pay attention to everyone and everything around you

OK, so once you have cultivated your inner zen, the next step is to pay attention to everyone and everything around you.

Pay attention to people--Google them ahead of time. Does somebody have an interesting story? Is someone at the event who can introduce you to the person you *really* want to meet?

Pay attention to your immediate environment. Do you see something unusual? Is someone wearing an interesting watch or tie?

Pay attention to the news. What’s going on in the local news? In your industry? What’s going on in the pop culture? (You be surprised how lively "Lost" discussions can get!)

3. Be genuinely curious and interested in other people

So once you’ve gathered your "intelligence," it’s easy to do the next step…be curious. The idea is to comment or a ask question, just be careful not to interrogate. The key is to be genuinely interested and inquisitive.

Mike Pratt, V.P. of Sales and marketing at Magnolia Hotels, says he loves to ask about people’s shoes because, he says, “If someone likes their shoes, it makes them feel good.” So I asked Mike his favorite shoe story and he told me about a gentleman he met while sitting on a plane.

He said, “He was wearing what was obviously a pair of expensive shoes. I mentioned how I liked his style of shoe and off went a two-hour conversation on where he got them, why, and how much they were, how they were made, etc. We then began a dialog about our professions, chatted the rest of the flight, and exchanged cards. Weeks later, I received by mail, a pair of the exact same shoes, in my size, from him…I called him to thank him and asked him why he sent such a nice gesture, as there was really no professional relationship that could have resulted from us meeting, and his response was, ‘I send something to everyone that I meet if I enjoyed meeting them. I enjoyed meeting you and you seem like someone who should have a nice pair of shoes.’”

Turns out the shoes were worth $1,200 bucks! Maybe I should have asked Mike about his shoes! Actually that reminds me of my final tip—try to practice every chance you get because it is a skill that can be cultivated. Practice at your favorite coffee shop, practice at sporting events, and of course you’d make my mother proud if you practiced while waiting in long grocery lines!

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This is Lisa B. Marshall. If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to listen to the companion episode “How to start electronic conversations” You can find the transcript of this episode at publicspeaker.quickanddirtytips.com and also as a special bonus you can find a link to “25 Perfect Phrases for Starting a Business Conversation”

If you have a question about how to communicate better at work, e-mail publicspeaker@quickanddirtytips.com, leave a comment on my blog at publicspeaker.quickanddirtytips.com or follow me on Twitter by typing: follow lisabmarshall. For information about keynote speeches or workshops visit lisabmarshall.com.

Passionate about communication…your success is my business.

Resources

25 Perfect Phrases For Starting a Business Conversation

Includes the phrases and the reason why you want to use a particular question. Check it out.


Comments (19) for How to Start a Conversation |  Subscribe to Comment

Peter Chen Says:
6/14/2009 7:05:03 AM
Hi, I am really like your program. How good is it to have you. I like you your accurate pronuncation and easy word using to understand every single word you say.
chantal Says:
6/1/2009 10:45:09 AM
yes I'm enjoy to read you but I shall want you read in french because I'm french woman and my english it no very well 01/06/09 11H50 PM
Jeff.h.Cho Says:
4/27/2009 7:16:32 AM
I was happy to find this site and get nice imformations, Even as a non-native english speaker, I can also undersatand all those usful tips for communicating with other peoples better. thaks you for all your esay and easly understandable tips and advice!!
Patricia Says:
3/27/2009 12:19:28 AM
I have always been a very shy person. I cannot seem to get in to a conversation when more than three people are around even if they are people I know. My boyfriend doesn't like to take me places with friends just because of the fact that I sit there listening to everyone and never say a word. i feel stupid at times. I f the ask me questions I answer but to just start talking in the middle of the conversation they are having seems impossible. I have done this with my family too. How do I start talking? I don't want my boyfriend to shut me out because I can't make conversation. Help
Jessica Says:
1/14/2009 8:09:26 AM
Hi, I was wondering where I could find the companion episode “How to start electronic conversations.” Thank you!
jeremy bowen Says:
12/1/2008 9:00:55 PM
i love your show it has done me a great deal of good thank you
MaryJ Says:
11/11/2008 7:20:01 AM
Very informative, thank you for your tips.
schubert.podspot.de Says:
10/16/2008 5:24:31 AM
I think you are right when you say that being curious is really important for a conversation. What I would like to add: It doesn't help to pretend to be curious, you really HAVE to be. Don't start with a subject witch you think that the other one could be interested in, start with a subject you are interested in by yourself. And one more thing: When I don't feel like talking, I just shut up. After some minutes, there is always something that attires my interest and I can't stop myself of asking someone about it.
Lisa Marshall Says:
9/12/2008 3:14:26 AM
Rick, The electronic conversation episode will be posted sometime in October. We only release them one a week. Rest assured, it's coming!
Rick Says:
9/2/2008 12:38:58 PM
So, where IS the companion episode "How to start an electic conversation?" I can't find it on the site, and you don't provide a link? Did you even read your own copy?
Shane Says:
8/23/2008 4:58:13 PM
Lisa, I truly enjoyed the podcast. I guess you could say there are three degrees of separation between your podcast and myself. I heard of your podcast via Grammar Girl. I was referred to Grammar Girl via Short Cummings Audio. In any case, as I am pondering a podcast of my own (audio essay format), I think I can learn a lot from you. Thank you so much for joinging the Quick and Dirty Tips network.
Bruce in Iloilo Says:
8/14/2008 2:13:29 AM
Great podcast. My tip to stay curious is to remember that you can always learn something new from anyone. Try to find that out. Instead of being bored with small talk at a cocktail party, set out to learn. The party is no longer boring; it is a real-life podcast. Thanks for your podcast. Keep it up.
QDTips Admin Says:
8/4/2008 6:28:29 PM
Ken, I just want to let you know that The Public Speaker will be launched on iTunes very soon! Keep an eye on the subscribe page for details!
Ken Says:
8/4/2008 7:45:29 AM
Hi, Why can't I find you on iTunes? Will that be coming soon? I love your material! Ken
Manal Says:
8/3/2008 1:56:24 PM
Hi Liza I realy like your episods but i wish if you can slow down when you speak to give us a chance to understand most of what you say, because as i am one of those many who try to learn english ,we find it very difficult to follow you.Kindly try to give tis point litle consideration inorder to help us to get advantage of these wonderful episods . I shall welkcome any advise you give me to speak english better . very kind regards
Nick Says:
8/1/2008 12:28:49 PM
Hi could you do an episode on how I can make my voice stronger? People seem to interrupt me a lot when I'm speaking or have trouble hearing me clearly. I am a soft speaker more than a mumbler. Any tips?
Adriene Says:
7/26/2008 7:21:27 AM
Hi Lisa! Loved your blog about starting a conversation! I have one for you on a different subject... I have one of those "every-woman" faces and I often get mistaken for someone strangers think they know. So, I'm in a store, one I'm not that familiar with, and someone comes up to me who thinks I work there and wants to know why they can't find the most popular item on sale on the shelf. I must look like the "regular' sales lady they are used to dealing with, and I don't want to get this person in trouble, but I have NO CLUE where this item is (as I don't shop there regularly), who this person is she normally deals with, or WHERE this item is she is talking about. This customer is obviously frazzled from a long day herself and I don't see another store employee in sight. How do I steer her in the right direction without making her more angry or turning her off and causing the store to LOSE a customer?? Any ideas? All my very best, Adriene
Gregg Says:
7/25/2008 7:25:47 PM
Great stuff Lisa. I am really looking forward to this podcast. I think in our world of texting, email, and IM the business world (myself frequently included) forget the power of public interaction and speaking. Great job and excited for the next episode!
CHA Says:
7/25/2008 2:34:30 AM
Hello! I really pleased to listen this episode. I used to study in New-York for improving my English,but I couldn't make friends at that time. I am a shy asian girl, so when somebody spoke to me, I just avoided it. I am so regretting about it. There was a lot of chance to talk with native speakers, but I couldn't catch it. I didn't know how treat conversations with native speakers, so I avoided when a native speaker spoke to me while I was standing grocery line. So I highly recomend the people who are studying abrad to catch the chance!! If there is somethig wrong with my grammar, please E-mail to me. It would be helpful for me.

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